MicroPython Forum (Archive)

Have you ever tried to build micropython on windows? Impossible. Giles Thomas has analysed there must be millions of python developers on windows. https://blog.pythonanywhere.com/67/ They will all be restricted, and will go look further for alternatives.

Humm ... time for btree module in pure python? Than the user could simply copy the module and continue with this project.
The guys who want to have the c version, can still use the c version.

Yes, I always build my own firmware for the ESP8266. Not for the ESP32 though, I just copy the files onto it or use .mpy to save some RAM. To me it sounds like, MicroPython is sufficiently open for you. You can use the mpy files, you can switch modules on or off (turning on/off the btree module for...

Just out of curiousity ... Have you ever build your own custom firmware and used it in any of your projects? Even if it did not require any modifications in C, perhaps to support another board or some existing C module?

Any progress? I couldn't help but notice that BTree is written in c. You probably need to set the right flag, recompile the micropython codebase and create your new firmware for your case.
>>> extmod/modbtree.c
Line 35: #if MICROPY_PY_BTREE

So, set the flag and recompile?

An important point is the price of the devices... I totally understand your calculation. Every project has it's specifics. I'm sure the community comprises of many people doing Python and some basic C if required, and are benefitting from the 'minimal'-argument discussions. Would you say it would b...

As others pointed out already: the development itself in python is usually faster and more fun. So 'better' completely depends on the end goal. Yeah, the fun part is also important. I agree. What I meant with better in this context is, a) better for MicroPython and b) easier for the developer to ev...

Also the new Pyboard-D or the ESP32 with extra Ram should handle big projects quite well, or won't they? I'm sure they do, that's the whole point of these boards having been developed right? More processing power, less space and less energy drain! With the availability of these boards, MicroPython ...

@pfalcon To me it seems you are making your 'minimal' point very clearly and loudly. For you it is about minimal only, the least bit of 'bloat' will kill 'the project'. Every other argument will be defeated by the 'minimal' argument, right? Just a thought ... do you not think that it is a better ide...

@ThomasChr I think what you're describing is what a typical "no firmware builder" would do. Try avoiding the need to build firmware. So it is possible, as you demonstrated with these projects. I am triggerred by various conversations here, where arguments are being made to favor 'minimal' at all cos...